Or maybe itвЂ™s just inherently imbalanced because, while the player can be reactive to an enemy CivвЂ™s traits, the AI canвЂ™t do that to the player, whose motivation is essentially ever-changing.ДЄdam: We talked about this a little earlier, the lack of an agenda for the player, and while I donвЂ™t want to get into backseat game-designing, I think itвЂ™s a very valid point. I like what theyвЂ™ve tried to to do but it does feel like a half-finished experiment. Combine this with XCOM 2, which arguably was also far too opaque about its many interlinking abilities and the strategy map, and Firaxis seem to be falling into the Creative Assembly trap of becoming so heavy with features that they neglect to explain their essentials all that well.ДЄnd, in this instance, weвЂ™ve got some fairly messy Diplomacy that really should have been made fully functional instead of shoving in some brand new system. There are so many layers pasted on top of old layers and even I, as an old hand, havenвЂ™t found stuff like Amenities or Religion to be particularly easily-grasped or managed. That was the sort of the feature creepy one, before the soft rethink of IV, and I think thatвЂ™s whatвЂ™s happening here, which contributes to why e.g. TheyвЂ™re such dominant personality traits and behaviours that they donвЂ™t leave room for subtleties.ДЄlec: I know Civ IV and V are the obvious comparisons - the former being the other overtly cheery one and V being the one this shares the most systems with - but itвЂ™s III IвЂ™m thinking of most.

I love the inclusion of casus belli and the driving force behind the agendas, but the former sometimes feel too arbitrary and the latter often require constant appeasement. The diplomacy on the other hand feels like a bunch of really good ideas that havenвЂ™t been fully executed - I described it earlier as being the most Civ 5 part of Civ 6. I donвЂ™t think the AI is terrible by any means, but I also donвЂ™t think itвЂ™s particularly good. Pip: I'm having a more middling experience, I think, and I'm trying to work out how much of that is because I'm not steeped in 4X genre things as a matter of course, and how much is actively bad design, or failure to convey the information in an accessible way.ДЄdam: The two things that IвЂ™m unhappy about are tightly related - the AI and diplomacy as a whole. Now that the early rush of charm has faded thereвЂ™s stuff thatвЂ™s frustrating me, but absolutely not to the point that I wonвЂ™t play the thing until 2am for the next few weeks. But what say you? Are you having a good time?ДЄlec: A much better time than I did with Civ V pre-expansions, yeah, but more cracks are showing up as I play. You can read all about that in my big review, as IвЂ™m sure BOTH OF YOU ALREADY HAVE. ThatвЂ™s still a terrifying four years though.Д«ut now six is here and I think itвЂ™s absolutely grand. In my head, I tend to date it to the launch of Gods and Kings. Civ V does feel more recent than that though, mainly because the expansions felt like the real game. How.ДЄdam: Click end turn just one time and years fly by, thatвЂ™s just the way of it. And has learning to play Civ become like learning to play Dota? Let us parley.ДЄlec: How can it have been six years since Civ V. Grievances are aired at length about its new Diplomacy system, jumbled UI and opaque nature, while its vibrant look and elaborate nature are praised. The three of them now form an uneasy alliance to discuss the strengths and failings of the game. Though Adam was the first to settle in the brave new world of Civilization 6, Alec and Pip have since spent the weekend establishing their own outposts in Sidland.

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